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Title: Crossing at a Ford
Fandom: Avatar: The Last Airbender
Character(s): Sokka and Piandao
Pairing(s): None
Rating: G
Word Count: ~1200
Warnings: Set post-series; contains spoilers for the finale.
A/N: Sokka became one of my favorite characters over the course of this series, so I'm no end pleased to have a chance to show him in action. (I'm less certain I've captured Piandao, though. Concrit welcomed with or without a slice of lemon.) Crossposted from [livejournal.com profile] nebroadwe to [livejournal.com profile] avatar_fans and [livejournal.com profile] avatarfic; my home Internet is behaving oddly at the moment, so I apologize in advance for any delay in responding to comments.
Dedication: For Lucy and Noël, because someday they will be my best beta readers.



"'Crossing at a ford' means, for example, crossing the sea at a strait ... setting sail even though your friends stay in harbor, knowing the route, knowing the soundness of your ship and the favor of the day. When all the conditions are met, and there is perhaps a favorable wind, or a tailwind, then set sail. If the wind changes within a few miles of your destination, you must row across the remaining distance without sail."

-- Miyamoto Musashi, A Book of Five Rings (tr. Victor Harris)

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      Like a lot of Sokka's really good ideas, this one wasn't working out in practice the same way it had in his head. Which was completely unfair, because he'd put a lot of effort into preparing to visit Master Piandao, instead of dropping in on a whim like he had the first time. He'd dressed Fire Nation-style for the long journey overland to the Master's castle (because some old grudges still flourished even in the Avatar's new era of peace), but he'd changed into the blue brigandine and moon-charged surcoat of a Water Tribe warrior before presenting himself at the gate. He'd remembered to bring a gift, too: blubbered seal jerky and dried sea-prunes wrapped in an otter-seal pelt he'd cured himself, all tied up with a red silk ribbon from which he'd hung the Master's white lotus pai sho tile. Even Katara had said it looked pretty. Fat the butler had greeted him with the same lack of enthusiasm as before, of course, but Sokka had tucked his wolf's-head helmet under his arm and stridden through the courtyard with all the confidence of someone certain he had it right this time. No need to worry about maintaining a disguise or inventing an alias; all he had to make was a simple, straightforward request: Teach me more, Master; I want to learn.

      So why was it all going wrong?

      The longer Sokka knelt in the wide, bright hall, its tall windows open to admit a gentle morning breeze, the more he was beginning to entertain the fantasy that he'd somehow traveled back in time to repeat his awkward first meeting with Piandao all over again. He didn't even open his present. The little bundle slumped, apparently forgotten, at the Master's left hand. Piandao was seated behind his writing table today, opposite his would-be apprentice, but the sunshine streaming cheerfully down upon his head cast his face into shadow, making his expression difficult to read. As Sokka stumbled through an increasingly rambling explanation of his motives, deeds, and hopes for the future, Piandao sipped the drink he held and said nothing.

      The sun climbed a few degrees higher, escaping over the roof tiles. At last, somewhere in the middle of a disquisition on the indignities inflicted on history by dramatic license, the Master set his cup aside with a quiet clink.

      Sokka's voice immediately dried up.

      "So," Piandao addressed him in a daunting, let-me-get-this-straight tone, "you lost your sword."

      "Yes, Master." Not a day went by that Sokka didn't regret that; the weather-wise knee he'd picked up in exchange hardly seemed a fair trade. He wondered if Piandao had kept the remains of the meteorite and whether they could smelt enough ore from it to forge a new blade. Or maybe he could go prospecting for more space earth. Things that big and loud hitting the ground have to make news. Too bad the Knowledge Spirit sank his library, but maybe Zuko would let me poke around in the Fire Sages' archives ...

      "But you defeated the Fire Nation's airship fleet."

      Which hadn't involved half as much swordsmanship as it had applied physics, but maybe that counted as one of those other arts whose study Piandao recommended to keep the mind sharp and fluid. I stamped my identity on that battlefield with a war balloon. "Yes, Master," Sokka replied, adding modestly, "Toph and Suki hel-- "

      "And then you returned home," Piandao continued, ignoring the qualification, "to assist your father and sister in rebuilding the Southern Water Tribe."

      But they agreed that it was a good idea for me to come here and learn swordsmanship and calligraphy and stuff, Sokka thought, trying not to remember how much argument (not "whining," thank you, dear sister) had been required to bring his family around to that point of view. "Well, yeah."

      "But now you've come to me for training, instead."

      Possibly a stupid thing to do in high summer, when distant prospects blurred beneath a shimmering haze and cicada-locusts thrummed drowsily in the trees and anyone with a lick of sense napped from midday through midafternoon. The air had already grown as heavy as a walrus-bearskin rug over the course of this interview. Sokka could feel the sweat beginning to trickle down his back beneath his shirt ... so why did he suddenly want to shiver? "Yes, Mas-- "

      "Don't call me that!" Piandao's voice somehow managed to fill the high-ceilinged chamber without becoming any louder (a technique Sokka added to his to-learn list even as he flinched). "Don't your own people still need you? Didn't I tell you to continue your training on your own?"

      "Yes, Ma-- uh, sir." Sokka bowed, hoping he looked humble and not as if he were trying to duck. "But I really think -- "

      "Then why are you here?" Piandao demanded, rising from his desk to loom over his petitioner like Kyoshi Island's unagi poised to pluck a wallowing tortoise-slug from the waves. "How can I teach you anything when you don't listen?"

      Sokka pressed his forehead into the carpet so firmly that he could feel it leaving a mark on his skin. "Well, I -- I thought," he stammered, "that I could listen better if I was, uh, close enough to hear?"

      He wasn't sure what was worse: the silence that followed this remark, into which not even a cicada-locust dared chirp, or the badly-suppressed snicker that finally broke it. He could only be glad that none of his family or friends (especially Suki) were here to see him rebuffed; it would be awful enough slinking back to the South Pole like a whipped wolf-dog. It's gonna be a long walk home. A long, hungry walk, too -- he'd been so sure that Master Piandao would take him on again as a pupil, he'd only bothered to bring enough provisions for a one-way trip.

      Well, at least I gave old Sourpuss a laugh. Sokka stole a self-flagellating glance at Fat, but the servant's face was set in its usual grumpy expression, without so much as a glint of humor in his eyes. Then who -- ? He peeked the other way, then surreptitiously humped his spine so that he could get a glimpse back between his knees. Nobody else had entered the room. Astonished, he looked up at Piandao --

      -- who, letting fall the hand that had muffled his amusement, threw back his head in a shout of laughter. "Ha!" he exclaimed. "Very well, then!"

      Sokka gaped.

      Master Piandao bent down, his handsome features lit by a grin almost sinister in its enthusiasm. "But you will listen this time," he went on, "and obey -- and learn -- or I'll toss you out on your ear faster than you can say, 'Flaming fire flakes.'"

      Sokka's head seemed to whirl for a moment at this abrupt reversal (I passed? I passed!) but he quickly gathered his wits, recovered his dropped jaw, and grinned back. "I'm pretty good at tongue-twisters, Master," he said.

      "A true master pays attention even to trifles," approved Piandao, gesturing Sokka to his feet. "Fat! Bring the practice gear for my student!"



Author's Note: My apologies to all those of my acquaintance who think The Book of Five Rings is self-propagandizing twaddle. I'm sure Piandao's own meditations on the art of strategy are far more elegant and thoughtful, but unfortunately I do not have Sokka's access to the Master's library.



[Acknowledgments: Avatar: The Last Airbender was created by Michael Dante DiMartino and Bryan Konietzko; copyright for this property is held by Viacom International, Inc.]

Date: 2008-11-23 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
Oh, this made me laugh. Thanks.

Date: 2008-11-23 03:13 pm (UTC)
ext_110433: The Magdalen Reading (Writer)
From: [identity profile] nebroadwe.livejournal.com
Your icon does the same for me. Way to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. :-)

Date: 2008-11-23 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
HEE. I keep looking at the premiere photos and thinking, 'baby face!' 'Your chin's all wrong!'

*headshake*

But the icon made me laugh lots.
Edited Date: 2008-11-23 03:33 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-11-23 04:57 pm (UTC)
ext_110433: The Magdalen Reading (Books)
From: [identity profile] nebroadwe.livejournal.com
I think [livejournal.com profile] kanja177's going to drag me to this one at least twice. [makes mental note to watch trailer, as everyone seems to be recommending]

Date: 2008-11-23 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
I have no one locally to go and geek with. *makes big pouty face*

Did you see my post this a.m.?

Date: 2008-11-23 05:10 pm (UTC)
ext_110433: The Magdalen Reading (Default)
From: [identity profile] nebroadwe.livejournal.com
No. [heads off to look while Internet is still up]

Date: 2008-11-24 01:50 pm (UTC)
ext_110433: The Magdalen Reading (Bear)
From: [identity profile] nebroadwe.livejournal.com
I showed that to some people, and the general reaction was, "Someone had too much time on their hands." (Followed usually by, "And how do I get their job?")

Date: 2008-11-25 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
hahahaha, yeah, I'd like that job myself.

Date: 2008-11-25 01:42 am (UTC)
ext_110433: The Magdalen Reading (Bear)
From: [identity profile] nebroadwe.livejournal.com
Is Sanrio still hiring in this economy? I'd think that the Cute Industry would survive when practically everything else was going under, but we live in interesting times.

Date: 2008-11-25 12:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
I don't know, sadly. And ongoing cute might just melt my brain (this from someone whose goal in life was to work in a toy store).

Date: 2008-11-25 03:08 pm (UTC)
ext_110433: The Magdalen Reading (Bear)
From: [identity profile] nebroadwe.livejournal.com
Hey, if you can handle the ELDs, who appear to be Cute Incarnate ...

Date: 2008-11-26 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
Cute is fine. It's dealing with Little Children (and their parents) that make me cranky. *grins*

Date: 2008-11-26 02:20 am (UTC)
ext_110433: The Magdalen Reading (Default)
From: [identity profile] nebroadwe.livejournal.com
Little Children, bizarrely, tend to think I'm cool. I agree with you that the parents are another kettle of fish entirely.

Date: 2008-11-26 12:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
They (Little Children) tend to think the same of me, however, I am wary of Such Creatures, due to secretions that come out of too many orifices.

Date: 2008-11-26 01:38 pm (UTC)
ext_110433: The Magdalen Reading (Default)
From: [identity profile] nebroadwe.livejournal.com
I feel your pain. Have I ever told you the story about how, after I sang a dulcet lullaby to an apparently happy child, it promptly threw up on me? Everybody's a critic ...

Date: 2008-11-27 01:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
While none have ever taken it upon themselves to do such a thing (probably because I generally refuse to get near them until they're potty trained), I am ultimately wary of such happenings.

Date: 2008-11-23 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unbreakabledawn.livejournal.com
Aww... that was really cute!! I liked it a lot! I think you captured the dynamic between Sokka and Piandao really well, and you portrayed both of their characters accurately as well. Good job!! ^_^

Date: 2008-11-23 05:00 pm (UTC)
ext_110433: The Magdalen Reading (Writer)
From: [identity profile] nebroadwe.livejournal.com
Phew! For some reason I had a really hard time with Piandao -- I kept having to remind myself that his diction isn't all that formal most of the time, and then I worried that he never got quite as informal as the "toss you out on your ear" line. Also the snickering, which was in and out and in and out ... Hopefully I'm just being paranoid from exhaustion: this is the third piece I've completed in the last five days, with another just drafted out this morning and two more, longer ones getting themselves laid out as notes. I need to call animal control for all these plotbunnies.

Date: 2008-11-23 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unbreakabledawn.livejournal.com
Lmao, that's pretty awesome though! Share some of your plotbunnies with me, lol, plotbunnies all around! :) Plot is just one of those things I have... hard times with, haha. That and I have like no time to write anymore :P

Date: 2008-11-24 01:50 pm (UTC)
ext_110433: The Magdalen Reading (Writer)
From: [identity profile] nebroadwe.livejournal.com
Yeah, either I have time but no plotbunnies or plotbunnies but no time. I can't wait for retirement.

*_____________*

Date: 2008-11-23 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plushulala.livejournal.com
*twitches* Piandao...


You totally made my day!

Re: *_____________*

Date: 2008-11-24 01:04 pm (UTC)
ext_110433: The Magdalen Reading (Writer)
From: [identity profile] nebroadwe.livejournal.com
Thanks! My work here is done. :-)

Date: 2008-11-23 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittyjimjams.livejournal.com
I like this, I really like the atmosphere created and the way you use language!

Since you asked, I think your Sokka is spot on, especially the pig-headed arguing with Katara and his line about being close enough to hear, which is genius. I could believe that this was Piandao, even if you're right, the handle on him is maybe a fraction less secure - I'm not sure about the flash of irritability, maybe? But he is a pretty subtle character, and we don't see much of him, so that might just be personal feeling on my part.

Overall though I think it's really nice and works well as a moment between the two of them. :)

Date: 2008-11-24 01:19 pm (UTC)
ext_110433: The Magdalen Reading (Writer)
From: [identity profile] nebroadwe.livejournal.com
I like this, I really like the atmosphere created and the way you use language!

A bit less English-major-y than "Ashes, Ashes," (http://nebroadwe.livejournal.com/95147.html) but I still spent some time poking around my arms and armor references to make an educated guess about the level of tech involved in Sokka's gear. And it's nice to be working in a world where those chattering tree-insects can be "cicada-locusts," solving the folk wisdom v. science naming problem by agglomeration. :-)

Since you asked, I think your Sokka is spot on, especially the pig-headed arguing with Katara and his line about being close enough to hear, which is genius. I could believe that this was Piandao, even if you're right, the handle on him is maybe a fraction less secure - I'm not sure about the flash of irritability, maybe? But he is a pretty subtle character, and we don't see much of him, so that might just be personal feeling on my part.

The way I'm getting around my uneasiness at the moment about Piandao's demanding to know why Sokka's there is to excuse it as a test, which is common enough in these scenarios (the point being to discover whether the student is committed enough to remain in the face of opposition and what his/her motives are for doing so). Sokka, of course, then surprises Piandao with a remark that isn't one of the usual answers, reminding him of what he saw worth training in Sokka the first time around. But the problem with the initial set-up, I guess, is that Piandao still sounds a bit Generic Kung-Fu Master to me (compare Jeong-Jeong, for instance) rather than uniquely himself, but if he's playing Generic Kung-Fu Master ... I don't know. Maybe six months from now I'll realize what I could have done better. For now, I think I'm just going to have to move on ...

Date: 2008-11-23 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mulzrule.livejournal.com
I just love your take on Sokka. I hope you play with him more.

Date: 2008-11-24 01:20 pm (UTC)
ext_110433: The Magdalen Reading (Writer)
From: [identity profile] nebroadwe.livejournal.com
He's gonna have to wait his turn now -- Mai, Zuko and Ursa are all in line ahead of him.

Date: 2008-11-24 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mulzrule.livejournal.com
Even better! (Sorry Sokka *sweatdrop*)

Date: 2008-11-24 03:30 pm (UTC)
ext_110433: The Magdalen Reading (Writer)
From: [identity profile] nebroadwe.livejournal.com
He's probably being run off his feet by Piandao, anyway.

Date: 2008-11-24 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hymnia.livejournal.com
*is looking forward to this*

I've enjoyed all the Avatar fic you've posted so far very much--sorry I haven't commented before.

Date: 2008-11-24 10:15 pm (UTC)
ext_110433: The Magdalen Reading (Writer)
From: [identity profile] nebroadwe.livejournal.com
*is looking forward to this*

It may take a while -- sometimes I find it difficult to settle into doing one 'fic when I've got two or three clamoring for attention. But yay for potential built-in audience. :-)

I've enjoyed all the Avatar fic you've posted so far very much--sorry I haven't commented before.

Better late than never! (I'm not always that good about commenting myself, so I can't cast stones.)

Date: 2008-11-23 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juxtaposie.livejournal.com
You know, I was absolutely ecstatic when you started writing Avatar (because it is, without a doubt, my favorite media creation EVER!!!) and you have never disappointed. Everything about this fic is just... wow? You make me remember precisely why I am truly, madly, deeply in love with Sokka. The characterization, the tone: just perfect.

In summary, great job! So glad to have you in the neighborhood!

Date: 2008-11-24 01:23 pm (UTC)
ext_110433: The Magdalen Reading (Writer)
From: [identity profile] nebroadwe.livejournal.com
Thanks! I think my favorite moment writing this one was realizing that Sokka was going to peek back between his legs to see who was laughing. I'm not a very visual writer -- I don't normally "watch" scenes in my head -- but I could see that little bit of blocking as clearly as if it had been animated, culminating with his eyes-wide, slightly SD stare up at Piandao. Priceless. :-)

Date: 2008-11-24 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] artemisrae.livejournal.com
Sokka is hearts. You nailed his character - seriously, "I thought I could listen better if I was close enough to hear" could have been lifted from a script.

That final battle with the airships is one that I'm STILL shocked Nick let them get away with, but I was happy to see references to both Sokka's bum leg and the loss of his sword. (I've seen fics where Sokka and Toph go on a hike and locate it, but I think that battle took place over water, didn't it? Ack, can't find screencaps...)

Anyway, I am always delighted to get home from work to find fic from you, especially Avatar fic and ESPECIALLY Sokka fic. How's everything else looking, fic wise?

Date: 2008-11-24 01:48 pm (UTC)
ext_110433: The Magdalen Reading (Writer)
From: [identity profile] nebroadwe.livejournal.com
Sokka is hearts. You nailed his character - seriously, "I thought I could listen better if I was close enough to hear" could have been lifted from a script.

That came first, of course. I still have the little post-it note on which I scribbled that line and then the opening line. After that, all I had to do was get from the one to the other.

That final battle with the airships is one that I'm STILL shocked Nick let them get away with, but I was happy to see references to both Sokka's bum leg and the loss of his sword.

I love that sequence (though my tiny inner military science geek has to be suppressed every time I watch Sokka take that airship out of formation not once, but twice, with no reaction shots from the Fire Nation side. Granted they're new to this airfleet thing and the point of formation work like this is that you bloody well stay in formation to get the job done, but surely, surely, SOMEBODY would have noticed and wondered what the hell was up. I'm guessing they didn't have the seconds to spare on such a scene, and without ship-to-ship communications, you can't have a "THX-1138, why aren't you at your post?" bit, either. Down, tiny geek! Down!). That whole sequence is a tour-de-force, really -- and I guess Nick let them have it on the strength of the scene after Aang defeats Ozai and puts out all the fires, when you see lots of little figures clustered on top of the downed war balloons. No red-shirts were harmed in the making of this climax. :-)

Someday I need to write my story-external analysis of why Katara accompanies Zuko to take down Azula (short version: she can't end up dead, either, because that would contravene the thematic point being made, but in character/world-building terms a straight-up agni kai has no other possible ending, so ...)

(I've seen fics where Sokka and Toph go on a hike and locate it, but I think that battle took place over water, didn't it? Ack, can't find screencaps...)

I think it was over land at that point, but since Aang flooded everything out, it's probably much of a muchness. And while I understand the impulse to retrieve the sword (I mourned as sadly as Sokka did when it went over the edge), I'm a great believer in the what's dead, stays dead rule, because it helps prevent sloppy writing and forces one to think about consequences rather than simply indulging in sentiment. I'm a cold, ruthless person down deep. :-)

Anyway, I am always delighted to get home from work to find fic from you, especially Avatar fic and ESPECIALLY Sokka fic. How's everything else looking, fic wise?

Another Avatar drabble will be going up later this morning (where are they all coming from?). I got a little more revision done on "In My End Is My Beginning," but I think that's going to be my Thanksgiving project. I need to finish making notes for "Zuko asks Mai why she doesn't want to hold the baby" and "Ursa's life story in drabbles" and think more about "Fai takes Sakura shopping for battle costumes on Infinity" so that eventually I can make some coherent notes about that. Oh, and buy carrots to feed the plotbunnies and see if I can shoo one of them off in [livejournal.com profile] unbreakabledawn's direction. I'm running out of hutch space.

How about you? Evil Aang 'Fic of Doom progressing?

Date: 2008-11-25 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] artemisrae.livejournal.com
That came first, of course. I still have the little post-it note on which I scribbled that line and then the opening line. After that, all I had to do was get from the one to the other.

There is nothing more frustrating than getting one zinger for a fic and having to work it in. On the other hand, there is nothing more gratifying than actually having it WORK once you get there.

That whole sequence is a tour-de-force, really -- and I guess Nick let them have it on the strength of the scene after Aang defeats Ozai and puts out all the fires, when you see lots of little figures clustered on top of the downed war balloons. No red-shirts were harmed in the making of this climax. :-)

Oh, the whole sequence was amazing (I think my favorite part is actually when they remind us Toph IS blind "Did boomerang come back?!"), but I just keep thinking of them pitching the storyboard: "Well Sokka, Toph, and Suki hijack some airships and fly them into more airships." I'm amazed they let it fly (to so speak) in today's world. And I think it's the fact that the red shirts can swim that pushes it back from the edge - firebenders themselves aren't the evil ones, just the crap that their fire lord's been feeding them for generations.

Someday I need to write my story-external analysis of why Katara accompanies Zuko to take down Azula

Well it's certainly throwing my whole Zuko and Katara dynamic off in Evil Aang, let me tell you...

I'm a great believer in the what's dead, stays dead rule, because it helps prevent sloppy writing and forces one to think about consequences rather than simply indulging in sentiment. I'm a cold, ruthless person down deep

Hey, the Avatar 'verse apparently has a very active solar system. Wait a few years, and maybe Sokka can get a new rock to work with?

I need to finish making notes for "Zuko asks Mai why she doesn't want to hold the baby"

I'm very interested in this, mostly because I always picture it going the other way.

"Ursa's life story in drabbles"

Would you be interested in an Ursa runs into the Earth King plot bunny that isn't behaving well for me?

How about you? Evil Aang 'Fic of Doom progressing?

Recent parental drama has put a damper on ficcing, but I gotta say, the more I go back and tool with Evil Aang's outline the more I get scenes in my head - which is VERY good, because if I have these clear goal scenes it kinda gives me more motivation to work on the stuff I'm NOT picturing coherently. I also have that aforementioned Earth King and Ursa fic that I just can't seem to get right, that fic that I will get done for your birthday that I keep starting and stopping and trying to figure out how to get the tone right, and a small fic in the vein of [livejournal.com profile] 5_nevers about Ed. And I want to work up the nerve to write that Ed in a lightning storm scene that belongs to no fic, and I'm wondering if I should just post what I HAVE of a Roy and Riza fic as a sketch, because I'm starting to think that I'll never get the rest of the fic out.

So in short: lots of things on deck, but not much actually getting accomplished. *kicks brain*

Date: 2008-11-25 03:56 pm (UTC)
ext_110433: The Magdalen Reading (Writer)
From: [identity profile] nebroadwe.livejournal.com
There is nothing more frustrating than getting one zinger for a fic and having to work it in. On the other hand, there is nothing more gratifying than actually having it WORK once you get there.

Amen. I started working on "Ursa's life story in drabbles" (something warns me this one may turn out to be impossible to title, gah) last night, and the number of prosodic gems I had to delete to stay under the 100-word limit made me tear my hair. I just keep having to remind myself that Kill your darlings! is another good rule of writing. (Ozai has already proven himself a cold bastard; he doesn't have to say anything else, once he's tried to comfort Ursa by pointing out that, even though Zuko dies, they'll still have Azula.)

"Someday I need to write my story-external analysis of why Katara accompanies Zuko to take down Azula ..."

Well it's certainly throwing my whole Zuko and Katara dynamic off in Evil Aang, let me tell you...


What's the issue? [is curious]

Hey, the Avatar 'verse apparently has a very active solar system. Wait a few years, and maybe Sokka can get a new rock to work with?

Or, as he briefly stopped the progression of this story to ponder, go prospecting for any that smashed into the ground already and haven't been mined. Maybe he'll discover what killed off the Avatar-verse equivalent of the dinosaurs along the way. :-)

"I need to finish making notes for 'Zuko asks Mai why she doesn't want to hold the baby' ..."

I'm very interested in this, mostly because I always picture it going the other way.


That's what made this such a fascinating thing to work out, once I started in on it. Most people write postseries 'fic (good stuff, too, like "In Our Bedroom After the War") in which Mai is backstopping Zuko, who surely needs it. But any good relationship is about give-and-take, and I started wondering what adding a child to theirs would do to it. Despite his father issues, Zuko is a warm-hearted person, but Mai's got mother issues and a withdrawing personality. So he's the one who sends off message-hawks in every direction after his son is born -- and opens the story by being in the nursery, repeating back every sound little Roku makes while a somewhat harried maidservant gives the tyke a bath. Enter Mai.

Mai: "Congratulations. You can speak fluent baby."
Zuko: [embarrassed but grinning] "Thanks -- but I think I still need to develop my vocabulary."
Mai: "Why? Babies can't have much to talk about: eating, sleeping, needing a clean diaper ..."
Zuko: [with great dignity] "I'll have you know we were discussing Zhe-Ran on the Eight Transitory Goods."
Mai: [deadpan] "I'm sure it was enlightening."

Or something like that. :-)

Would you be interested in an Ursa runs into the Earth King plot bunny that isn't behaving well for me?

Sadly, no, because I've already got an "Earth King as Haroun al-Raschid/King Alfred" thing digging tunnels in my head. But if that's of any help to you ... [holds out plotbunny]

... the more I go back and tool with Evil Aang's outline the more I get scenes in my head - which is VERY good, because if I have these clear goal scenes it kinda gives me more motivation to work on the stuff I'm NOT picturing coherently ...

Oh, yes, I know exactly what you mean. A clear goal can also help determine the shape of the incoherent plotstuff that needs to underpin it, which is a big help. Hopefully the parental drama will fizzle away as it deserves to do, if not during the holiday, then afterwards, and you can get back to enjoying life's pleasures, like 'ficcing madly. (Plotbunny stew is a dish best served piping hot ...)

Date: 2008-11-25 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] artemisrae.livejournal.com
(Ozai has already proven himself a cold bastard; he doesn't have to say anything else, once he's tried to comfort Ursa by pointing out that, even though Zuko dies, they'll still have Azula.)

Ouch. There's not really much to say about him that he doesn't inadvertantly say for himself. Although, I have to admit that I kind of love (going back to the female's being awesome theme of my other comment) that he has total confidence in Azula despite the fact that tradition values males. Of course, Ozai himself probably has his own host of second child issues...

What's the issue? [is curious]

The issue stems mostly in how to change that whole episode around to fit with my AU - with how Aang changes after that night in Ba Sing Se, and Katara's subsequent blame of both herself and Zuko won't let her come around to trusting him like she does in the real Season 3. Their relationship in the fic is strained, and while I want to use as much canon as possible I need to figure out how to sort of tweak it so it makes more sense in the fic. (On the other hand, I have an awesome Mai and Katara argument/fight about their significant others during the final arc, so I think it'll be worth figuring out.)

And then I need to get my hands on The Southern Raiders (oh HO.)

and opens the story by being in the nursery, repeating back every sound little Roku makes while a somewhat harried maidservant gives the tyke a bath.

I think I had a coherent point to make about this, but the picture of Zuko babytalking his son melts me into a pile of goo. I guess I never thought about it in terms of Mai's mother issues - she's always been very open and never hesitated in being warm or loving Zuko, and so I had kind of figured that a baby would be an extension of that. However, like you said: mom issues. What a complicated couple.

Sadly, no, because I've already got an "Earth King as Haroun al-Raschid/King Alfred" thing digging tunnels in my head.

But they share an affinity for bear culture! *grumbles*

A clear goal can also help determine the shape of the incoherent plotstuff that needs to underpin it, which is a big help.

I seem to have worked out at least ONE big scene for each arc, which is extremely helpful (like the aforementioned Mai and Katara agument, along with a Zuko and Azula confrontation over Ursa, adn a scene with Toph testing her lie detectoring against Mai). It's funny to go back and reread Shadows, because it's SO OBVIOUS which are the scenes I really wanted to write.

Of course, I only have two days off for Thanksgiving, but it looks like I'm getting almost a month for Christmas, and I definitely plan on getting some real work done then. The one nice thing about my current major is that there is a remarkable lack of paper writing (at least, compared to my journalism major) which means my brain isn't wrung out with words anymore.

Date: 2008-11-26 01:42 am (UTC)
ext_110433: The Magdalen Reading (Writer)
From: [identity profile] nebroadwe.livejournal.com
Of course, Ozai himself probably has his own host of second child issues...

Oodles of them. Try implying all that in a hundred words [tries, fails, tries again ...]

The issue stems mostly in how to change that whole episode around to fit with my AU - with how Aang changes after that night in Ba Sing Se, and Katara's subsequent blame of both herself and Zuko won't let her come around to trusting him like she does in the real Season 3. Their relationship in the fic is strained, and while I want to use as much canon as possible I need to figure out how to sort of tweak it so it makes more sense in the fic.

That sounds like fun -- to read, not to write, given that it's going to involve some substantial canon tweaking. I've always liked that Katara's anger and distrust of Zuko isn't, at base, irrational. He was her enemy, he did betray her embryonic trust, and she has none of our insight into his recent history (or Toph's earthbending -- though I've always wondered why, in "The Western Air Temple," nobody brings up the fact that Azula can lie so well that she defeats Toph, and maybe it runs in the family? as an excuse to disbelieve her read of Zuko, but anyway) to recognize the sincerity of his change of heart. It only becomes irrational when she refuses to accept the evidence of that change of heart that she does have access to, when he joins up with the group. Then we get "The Southern Raiders" -- oh HO, indeed. :-)

I think I had a coherent point to make about this, but the picture of Zuko babytalking his son melts me into a pile of goo.

[grin]

I guess I never thought about it in terms of Mai's mother issues - she's always been very open and never hesitated in being warm or loving Zuko, and so I had kind of figured that a baby would be an extension of that. However, like you said: mom issues.

It also dawned on me, as I was laying this out, that I could have some fun playing with the lineal drives of kingship, in which women are important primarily because they produce children (and dangerous because, after all, it's a wise child that knows its own father). Mai would resist being reduced to the role of baby-factory, but given how thin and strained the Fire Nation's royal house has been lately, there would have to be a number of people at court keenly interested in emphasizing the queen-mother aspect of her role. Run that up against her likely experiences acquiring a little brother in early adolescence, after being treated as an adjunct to her father's political career her entire life, and one might be ripe for some interesting psychological conflict in the face of everyone's enthusiasm for little Roku ...

Of course, I only have two days off for Thanksgiving, but it looks like I'm getting almost a month for Christmas, and I definitely plan on getting some real work done then. The one nice thing about my current major is that there is a remarkable lack of paper writing (at least, compared to my journalism major) which means my brain isn't wrung out with words anymore.

One more reason for me to look forward to the New Year, then. :-) I remember what a relief it was when I finally finished my doctorate. I don't think I wrote anything for at least a year -- just laid around recovering my yen to put words on paper.

Date: 2008-11-24 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hymnia.livejournal.com
You captured the essence of Sokka perfectly. Piandao rings true as well. <3

Date: 2008-11-24 10:16 pm (UTC)
ext_110433: The Magdalen Reading (Writer)
From: [identity profile] nebroadwe.livejournal.com
Glad it worked for you!

Date: 2008-11-30 01:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arielen.livejournal.com
Now I have read this story too and I like it very much.

It is full of humor and yet it gives some insight in the two characters. Really well done!

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